ORCA DIGITAL NET, Report 3/Mar/15
Check-ins: 8
Traffic: 6
Keyboard: 6
Stations:
KE6NVU kbd (altNCS)
W7ZAP T (altNCS)
NX6D T
KJ6UPE T
K7IFG T
KR5RR 2T
K7KEV kbd
K7KY NCS
A remarkable net by any standard tonight. I’ve not been feeling well for a couple days and spent most of Tuesday revising the website to reflect our change to digital band only. Next I revised my fldigi macros to facilitate digital check-in. Normally, Mindy & I run a couple messages between our stations before the net to insure we’re operational. Tonight, I used all the time right up to net programming. When I called the net, I was sending gibberish and also not decoding anyone. Everything looked correct with my station and I could not figure out what was wrong. We called Paul KE6NVU to take over until I could operate. He had no preamble or net protocols to guide him and did his best with what he had and who he could hear. Hearing only two stations, he connected with them, copied their traffic, and closed the net.
Mindy heard stations calling and reopened the net and did a good job of keeping things organized while I sorted things out. And, once I found the problem it was easy to fix and I was back on the air. A couple weeks ago I configured flrig to work with fldigi and the KX3. Every time I ran flrig it somehow corrupted the KX3, an SDR. I had to reinstall the KX3 firmware each time. So, something in flrig has altered the configuration of fldigi and w/o flrig running, fldigi would not send or receive correctly. As soon as I started flrig, the station worked correctly and I was back on the air.
I relieved Mindy and we tried to get back to normal. A good thing actually, that Humboldt Ops were at their monthly ARC meetings and net attendance was light. Soon after I returned, three more stations checked in and we proceeded as usual, but without a distributed rotation list. I must admit I was rattled and not really on top of things. After reading the net log, I see things weren’t as messy as it seemed at the time. Your experience may have been different.
Anyway, we got on with business with a combination of keyboarding and traffic. JB KR5RR came prepared to send flmsg traffic, a first for him. His first attempt changed modes, but his TXID was not enabled and no one copied the file. At this juncture, an unidentified station transmitted,
Admittedly, it was initially a difficult and frustrating net. Still, there’s few among us who haven’t made mistakes on the net. We’ve all been new at this at some point. We have the good fortune of many competent digital Ops who’ve helped us all. And, we certainly want newcomers to feel welcome and help them learn their way around the net. This is a very friendly and supportive group of operators and I think someone was particularly frustrated and just popped off without thinking.
We helped JB with some fldigi/flmsg settings and he soon sent two ICS-213 messages that printed 100% and opened flmsg. Another station new to ORCA is Keith K7KEV in Forest Grove, Oregon. He’s new to fldigi, but familiar with digital radio. He also gave us information on his equipment and antenna. Ken K7IFG checked in with Mindy and sent a message with flamp. I don’t know how many stations copied it correctly and couldn’t determine this from the net log.
Don’t be discouraged by a little confusion this week. Digital check in is routine for digital nets. It’s how the ORCA DIGITAL NET began. It takes a bit longer than voice nets, but we will smooth it out and have our net operations in order soon. And, we can always easily QSY to voice for more extensive conversation.
There were some good suggestions this week regarding net operations. One idea is to have NCS enable TXID and all other station enable RXID with TXID disabled. This should keep us all in the same mode, but does not address the occasional problems of stations transmitting off 1500wf. This I think we can solve by each station enabling LOCK @ 1500. Staying locked on 1500 only effects your transmit frequency. AFC will follow drifting signals regardless of LOCK. This is how fldigi accommodates split QSOs. With each station locked @ 1500 we should only see the small drift generated by band conditions and our radios. Most current radio drift very little. I would like to know your thoughts on this suggestion.
While asking for your thoughts on net protocol, I’m also interested in your thinking about net message content. I’ve been OK with most messages crossing the net; they each create message handling practice. I’ve heard a little grumbling about rant messages now and then. Most of our messages are actually interesting and germane to our hobby. Occasionally we see messages clearly in the realm of religion or politics with no radio relevance. The ORCA DIGITAL NET belongs to the members and I’m interested in your thoughts. Take a moment to review the net log (attached at the bottom) and tell me what you think.
Thanks for participating and don’t be put off by infrequent disorder. And, please don’t take offense with an unkind remark. Some people don’t handle frustration as well as others. This is really a great group of Ops who work well together and are very willing to stick around and help stations with problems and configuration issues. We all have something to contribute. I hope to see you all back again next week. I’ll be on frequency before net time to take early check-ins while we make this transition. 73 Doug K7KY
——— Net Log —– This log from Mindy W7ZAP, incomplete in some places —————–
therte is a problem with nc so how about whos go traffic??
de KE6NVU k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T03:40Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1530>>
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T03:41Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1467>>
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de KE6NVU k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T03:43Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1504>>
I don’t have a text file ready. I will just type something.
Have been working hard recelnty trying to get my loop antenna up higher. I have one corner up to 30 feet now, which is probably as high as I dare. If I go higer, I think I’ll get a visit from the city.
Still trying to thei -none of the other corners up to 30 fe t as wanl. j I
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… start
[WRAP:beg][WRAP:lf][WRAP:fn 03MAR15.213]:hdr_fm:21
W7ZAP 20150403034602
:hdr_ed:21
W7ZAP 20150403032713
:to:16 ORCA DIGITAL NET
:p1:22 25w 120′ doublet @ 65′
:fm:11 Mindy W7ZAP
:p2:13 Brookings, OR
:d1:10 2015-03-03
:t1:5 1340L
:sb:55 VOA RADIOGRAM: Two years of strange noises on shortwave
:mg:1342
This week VOA Radiogram celebrated their 100th digital transmission. Below is an interesting observation about MFSK32:
Reception reports and audio files received from listeners
indicate that MFSK32 not only works well, it works better than
voice on analog shortwave. In conditions where a typical voice
broadcast is difficult to comprehend, e.g. my voice introduction
to each VOA Radiogram, the text is often copied 100%. Thus, the
introduction of software has extended the communications
capability of shortwave broadcast transmitters, just at a time
when those transmitters are being dismantled at an alarming rate.
If a country blocks our Internet content, it will probably also
jam our shortwave broadcasts. The text modes have been tested
against Chinese jamming of VOA and Radio Free Asia, and Cuban
jamming of Radio Mart–. Remote receivers in or near the target
countries show the text modes slicing through some intense
jamming.
MFSK32 occupies only about 500 Hz of the 2000 Hz bandwidth
available in each sideband of an AM shortwave signal. New modes
in development use all of that available 2000 Hz, to some extent
for additional speed, but even more for additional error
correction. This would result in a text delivery technology
especially well- suited to shortwave broadcasting, and perhaps
even more resistant to jamming.
[WRAP:chksum D92F][WRAP:end]… end
dannon kj6upe are you there???
de KE6NVU k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T03:49Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1489>>
btu NX6D de kj6upe k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T03:50Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1550>>
K7KY trans K Pay off freq to Ve
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T03:50Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1502>>
no copy here so i copied all transmissions well and 100%so i think the net should close tonight hope for better luck and conditions next week 73 to all paul
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T03:51Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1531>>
I ei t so t
de KE6NVU k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T03:52Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1539>>
WERW BEING WATCHED …. THOUSE HAMSTERS
I THINK DOUGS HAVING A HARD TIME KJ6UPE
ALL ORCA < W7ZAP K7KY is down tonight w/tech diff. Sorry to have such a disorganized net!! KF7IFG do you have traffic? W7ZAPk Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T03:54Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1501>>
W7ZAP DE K7IFG gOOD EVEING mINDY AND THE Net. Yes I have a short one in Flamp format. Got here
a bit late notice someone was xmiting on reverse probably why no one was copying.
Let me know when it is my turn to xmit de k7ifg k
ALL ORCA < W7ZAP Ken you should go ahead and all others- if you have FLAMP, please turn it on and hopefully we'll all copy the file :-) < W7ZAP Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T03:57Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1501>>
OR}CA de k7ifg traffic follows
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T03:57Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1498>>
QST to ORCA DE K7IFG
{D630:1}[b64:start]AUxaTUEAAAGMXQAAAAQAHhmJhvwzDh5T3dGz4uZcfBmD+hiqyJada
{D630:2}1QYvYFuSV6NfGt+Iwgw+3qIOk3hFAhlNI0SRVo/c+bh1hD3soNkSj9pUr1ui5DtU
{D630:3}5qSVWISUvdwIVPw6FcBSMspgJ4dfgpnocf36AMkfduiClxH6GbLCEafzzNDEtgUC
{D630:4}/WYYRQ5Kve5i0G1wdi+wWRK68LDt0GdDbTxmEaHoonx25JRn4jzgDggXgmUQixEv
{D630:5}EmmHFRRM8ZLbd8/gVWTI0lKpbdfAFkLNSyPYvrC+zRJ+sQDkRda5Z9uo+//9a41j
{D630:6}nzzMZo2mxKFS6c4XB/HJ8N6Olzw42HFtv5VZjaN9qh7BqLSEN2T+J0EluMEvPxvb
{D630:7}NGcIMwRy0rgU1ipInjKb5nvjmDT1QIVeNFI0ewfZQi3w6takCCePveBZ2WcV4cXT
{D630:8}CUQPIAA
[b64:end]QST TO ORCA DE K7IFG K
ALL ORCA < W7ZAP Paul do you have traffic? < W7ZAP ALL ORCA < W7ZAP KJ6UPE do you have traffic? I didn't copy you earlier... < W7ZAP K Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:01Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1481>>
YES I DO GOOD JOB ….ZAP….KJ6UPE HERE IT COMES…????
CAN I SEND IT??? KJ6UPE
KJ6UPE < W7ZAP Sorry about that! Yes, I was waiting ha haa< W7ZAP K Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:03Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1477>>
….start
[WRAP:beg][WRAP:lf][WRAP:fn kj6upe-69.213]:hdr_fm:20 kj6upe 201504030403Z
:hdr_ed:20 kj6upe 201504030252Z
:to:8 ORCA NET
:fm:18 KJ6UPE A WATCHMAN
:d1:3 NOW
:t1:11 MIDNIGHT HO
:sb:40 CLIMATE ENGINEERING..AKA CHEMICAL TRAILS
:mg:890 I JUST WATCHED A VERY POWERFULL DVD. BY A MAN WHO IS DOING A GREAT JOB BEING A WATCH MAN..DANE WIGINGTON…HIS WEB SITE IS geoengineeringWATCH.ORG…IM JUST BLOWN WHAT
IS GOING ON IN THE OCEAN…95 % OF OUR FISH.. NOT LARGE SHARKS OR WAILES ECT. ARE GONE..200 SPICHIESS A DAY…COME ON PEOPLE DAMN IT…PLEASE INVESTAGATE…OUR 1 ST AMENDMENT
IS GONE..I WOUNDER WAY??? HAR HAR. IF THE PEOPLE HAD IT WE COULD SLAM THESE MAJOR FREAKS OF NATURE..PRAY FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT..PLEASE WATCH THE INFO PLEASE.IN THE
NAME OF
OUR FATER IN HEAVEN AND OUR KIDS, PARENTS,LOVEONES……THERE IS WAR COMIN POSS THIS YEAR.WE ARE IN THE DAY….THATS WHAT HAM RAIDO IS FOR RIGHT???????….TO PERTECT IN TIMES
OF NEED?????? WATCH THE WEBSITS…PLEASE….THANK U. IN OBEDEANCE TO MY FATHER.AND MY DRIVEN LOVE FOR ALL OF US ..GOOOD NIGHT…KJ6UPE
73OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOO.ALLRIGHT
[WRAP:chksum F9D1][WRAP:end]……end
ALL ORCA < W7ZAP Good job Dannon. OK Doug thinks his station is ready, so lets see if he can print. Over to K7KY < W7ZAP K Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:06Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1500>>
ALL ORCA TU Mindy… Sorry for the mess tonight. I thought I was ready, but no. Last week I configured FLRIG to run the FT-857D and later found I didn’t really need it for the net. Tonight, I started and checked the system, but
didn’t start FLRIG. Without FLRIG running I was unable to send correctly or receive. I don’t know why, but I’ll find out.
Still with us is: KJ6UPE, NX6D, W7ZAP, K7IFG Any one I’ve missed, please come now. K7KY k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:09Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1516>>
KR5RR de K7KY GE JB and welcome to the strangest net we’ve had since beginning. I’ve had a tough day. I think you have traffic tonight and I don’t yet know who has unsent traffic. I’ll be back to you as soon as I get reoriented…
over to you JB. K7KY k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:11Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1479>>
CAN I SEND AGAIN KJ6UPE?? btu doug K7KY de kj6upe k
W7ZAP New Check In. QRU de K7KEV K
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:12Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1543>>
KR5RR de K7KY Oops! K7KY k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:12Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1497>>
CAN I SEND AGAIN KJ6UPE?? btu doug K7KY de kj6upe k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:12Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1528>>
KJ6UPE please stand by Danon.. K7KY k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:13Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1497>>
K7KEV de K7KY Sorry for the delay… It’s been a difficult evening. Welcome to ORCA DIGITAL NET… Over K7KY k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:14Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1483>>
K7KEV de K7KY Please come now. K7KY k
W7ZAP W7ZAP de K7KEV tnx WELCOME. mY FIRST DIGITAL NET. btu W7ZAP de K7KEV k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:15Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1503>>
K7KEV de K7KY Sorry for the confusion on your first digital net. This is Doug K7KY NCS. Mindy W7ZAP was covering for me as my station was having trouble… Please tell us your name and location. We are also interested in
your station and antenna. over to you K7KEV K7KY k
W7ZAP de K7KEV
my name … Keith Keith
my QTH …. Forest Grove, Oregon
my LOC …. CN85km
Brag Button: K7KEV, Keith
Age: 70
Rig: K3
Pwr: 40W
Ant: OCF Dual Dipole 160-6
OS: XP
Soft: Fldigi 3.22.05
Ifc: SignaLink USB
Thanks for the welcome.
btu Doug W7ZAP de K7KEV k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:17Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1504>>
K7KEV de K7KY FB Keith… Tonight is very unusual for us. Usually the net runs very smoothly and we have quite a bit of fun while learning digital communications… Stay with us while I catch up with the stations waiting to send
traffic. If you have flmsg available, most messages are transmitted with flmsg.
Ok Danon, we’ll be back to you as soon as we let JB send his message… Over ot you you JB… K7KY k
k7ky and net good Evening. Just got here, sorry. Doug, I quit using flrig, too many crashes. worked fine for years with both ft817 and ft857 then just not realiable. don’t really need except to log frequency.
OK, I think I just hit AutoSend in flmsg, so here goes:
… start
[WRAP:beg][WRAP:lf][WRAP:fn KR5RR-20150301-024135Z-1.213]:hdr_fm:21
KR5RR
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:22Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1604>>
UNBELIVEABLE
I didn’t see anything on this end so …… Oh wow, that was a surprise! Dind’t think it’d work that way.
OK, I guess it got sent.
Maybe twice!
BTU Doug,
k7ky de kr5rr k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:23Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1566>>
KR5RR de K7KY JB YOUr message didn’t print and I think I can tell you why.
Danon.. Please stand by a few more minutes…
JB… I think flmsg was set to a different mode than MFSK32. If so, it changed the mode in fldigi before sending. Near the bottom of flmsg you will find the mode setting box. Also, and most important, you need to go into the
configure tab of flmsg and set it to defer to the mode set in fldigi. And, be sure to enable TXID at the top right of fldigi. While you’re there, also enable RXID..
OK Danon… go ahead with your message… thanks for your patience.. K7KY k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:26Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1515>>
GOOD JOB DOUG……..
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:27Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1541>>
….start
[WRAP:beg][WRAP:lf][WRAP:fn kj6upe-69.213]:hdr_fm:20 kj6upe 201504030427Z
:hdr_ed:20 kj6upe 201504030252Z
:to:8 ORCA NET
:fm:18 KJ6UPE A WATCHMAN
:d1:3 NOW
:t1:11 MIDNIGHT HO
:sb:40 CLIMATE ENGINEERING..AKA CHEMICAL TRAILS
:mg:890 I JUST WATCHED A VERY POWERFULL DVD. BY A MAN WHO IS DOING A GREAT JOB BEING A WATCH MAN..DANE WIGINGTON…HIS WEB SITE IS geoengineeringWATCH.ORG…IM JUST BLOWN WHAT
IS GOING ON IN THE OCEAN…95 % OF OUR FISH.. NOT LARGE SHARKS OR WAILES ECT. ARE GONE..200 SPICHIESS A DAY…COME ON PEOPLE DAMN IT…PLEASE INVESTAGATE…OUR 1 ST AMENDMENT
IS GONE..I WOUNDER WAY??? HAR HAR. IF THE PEOPLE HAD IT WE COULD SLAM THESE MAJOR FREAKS OF NATURE..PRAY FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT..PLEASE WATCH THE INFO PLEASE.IN THE
NAME OF
OUR FATER IN HEAVEN AND OUR KIDS, PARENTS,LOVEONES……THERE IS WAR COMIN POSS THIS YEAR.WE ARE IN THE DAY….THATS WHAT HAM RAIDO IS FOR RIGHT???????….TO PERTECT IN TIMES
OF NEED?????? WATCH THE WEBSITS…PLEASE….THANK U. IN OBEDEANCE TO MY FATHER.AND MY DRIVEN LOVE FOR ALL OF US ..GOOOD NIGHT…KJ6UPE
73OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOO.ALLRIGHT
[WRAP:chksum 4B1D][WRAP:end]……end
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:29Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1529>>
KJ6UPE de K7KY Danon ur message printed 100% and opened flmsg
And, I want to remind everyone that message sending can be challenging, especially when just learning your way around a digital net. We want to keep our comments positive and supportive, if we can. We have all had problems
along the way. Me too. Tonight was a complete ClusterCluck for me at the beginning and Mindy and Paul pulled my Ox out of the ditch.
Does anyone else want to send traffic or make comments… Please come now.. K7KY k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:32Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1501>>
NX6D
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:32Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1499>>
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[WRAP:beg][WRAP:lf][WRAP:fn KR5RR-20150301-024135Z-1.213]:hdr_fm:21
KR5RR 20150403043233
:hdr_ed:21
KR5RR 20150103024144
:to:8 ORCA Net
:fm:8 JB.kr5rr
:d1:10 2015-03-02
:t1:6 00h01z
:sb:14 Getting Ready?
:s1:2 JB
:p3:6 CM88wb
:mg:255 Charles was getting annoyed and shouted upstairs to his wife,” Hurry up or we’ll be late.”
*************************************************
“Oh, be quiet,” replied his wife. “Haven’t I been telling you for the last hour that I’ll be ready in a minute?”
[WRAP:chksum 449A][WRAP:end]… end
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[WRAP:beg][WRAP:lf][WRAP:fn KR5RR-20150301-024135Z-1.213]:hdr_fm:21
KR5RR 20150403043235
:hdr_ed:21
KR5RR 20150103024144
:to:8 ORCA Net
:fm:8 JB.kr5rr
:d1:10 2015-03-02
:t1:6 00h01z
:sb:14 Getting Ready?
:s1:2 JB
:p3:6 CM88wb
:mg:255 Charles was getting annoyed and shouted upstairs to his wife,” Hurry up or we’ll be late.”
*************************************************
“Oh, be quiet,” replied his wife. “Haven’t I been telling you for the last hour that I’ll be ready in a minute?”
[WRAP:chksum FA60][WRAP:end]… end
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Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:35Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+0817>>
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:35Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1501>>
KR5RR de K7KY FB JB…
David, I’ll be right with you.
JB your message printed 100% and opened flmsg nice work It did transmit twice. you may have tapped it twice. OK over to David NX6D… K7KY k
R tx nou eÜKqSG to send.
NX6D
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:37Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1500>>
RSau {net
NX6D OK David go ahead.. K7KY k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:37Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1504>>
… start
[WRAP:beg][WRAP:lf][WRAP:fn NX6D-5.p2s]:hdr_fm:20
NX6D 20150403043735
:hdr_ed:20
NX6D 20150403043735
:tt:21 History of the Future
:to:8 ORCA Net
:fm:4 NX6D
:mg:159 “The history of our future is filled with moon bases, jet packs, and 200-mph cars, but has no cell phones, no Internet, and no laptop computers.” — Sunil Paul
[WRAP:chksum 6911][WRAP:end]… end
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:38Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1500>>
NX6D FB David… your message opened flmsg too… Perfect. Does anyone want to send another message before we go to a round of final comments? K7KY k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:39Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1494>>
W7ZAP Hearing no call for additional messages, over to Mindy for a round of comments and observations… Go mindy. K7KY k
W7ZAP copied the following stations tonight:
KE6NVU keyboard 90% copy
NX6D keyboard 80% copy Good luck w/your loop + I hope no visit from city :-)
2nd TX 100% + FLMSG
KJ6UPE keyboard no copy another station doubled
2nd TX 100% copy + FLMSG
3rd TX 100% copy + FLMSG
K7IFG keyboard 100% copy
FLAMP-no copy – very frusterating that I can’t copy consistantly. Must be op error on my end, but I can’t figure it out.
K7KY 100% copy (finally yay!)
K7KEV keyboard 100% copy – welcome to ORCA hope to see you here again
KR5RR keyboard 100% copy no copy on FLMSG
2nd TX 100% copy + FLMSG – great job!
This was a tough night. Tnx to all for being so patient :-) Hope to see you all next week.
73,
Mindy W7ZAP K
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:41Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1501>>
KJ6UPE Over to you Danon… K7KY k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:42Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1516>>
Got one more quick msg!
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:42Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1515>>
KR5RR OK JB go ahead with your message.. K7KY k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:43Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1536>>
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[WRAP:beg][WRAP:lf][WRAP:fn KR5RR-20150304-044321Z-2.213]:hdr_fm:21
KR5RR 20150403044324
:hdr_ed:21
KR5RR 20150403044324
:to:5 W7ZAP
:fm:5 KR5RR
:d1:10 2015-03-04
:sb:9 Congrats!
:s1:8 JB.kr5rr
:mg:31 On Graduating CW Academy!
… end
KR5RR de W7ZAP
Thanks JB. It was a lot of hard work and I’m very happy to have completed it! Planning to show up to ur net sometime soon. Have a bit more homework to do w/Doug so I will feel ready.
< W7ZAP K Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:45Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1483>>
Great! lOOKING FORWARD TO IT!
73 ALL DE kr5rr
gn
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:46Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1499>>
ALL ORCA OK Good work with fldigi and flmsg, JB thanks for coming tonight and I hope you become a regular..73
Let’s try Danon KJ6UPE once more before we move on with final comments… K7KY k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:47Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1509>>
NX6D OK David We aren’t hearing Danon any more, so up to you for final comments.. K7KY k
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:48Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1501>>
One thing I’ve noticed: asking for stations to respond if they want to send a message does not seem like it will work. On SSB Net Control can hear a pileup and sort it out. I don’t think that works on digital, but I don’t know what we
can do.
Otherwise, my setup is working fairly well and I’m starting to build a set of macros as I go.
I have my bandpass set narrow, about 1400 Hz wide, centered on 3595+1500. I do this to keep FLDIGI from seeing other stuff near our frequency. I don’t think I would want FLDIGI to sniff out RSIDs over a 3KHz passband, then
suddenly jump to a different modem and freq. I think the passband needs to be narrow.
See you next week, 73
BTN de NX6D
Before RSID: <<2015-03-04T04:49Z MFSK-32 @ 3505000+1498>>
NX6D Thanks David… We’ve run the net before from the digital band and worked it out pretty well. The new check-in macro will help us with this when they are supported in a final release version of fldigi. Using the macros, you
can print your callsign anywhere on the waterfall. I keep my passband open 3khz to facilate this type check in. You may have noticed some callsign off to either side during the net. It will work, but need some more refinments…
thanks for coming and being patient tonight… I think it
will smooth out as we learn our way.. 73
K7KY k
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OK, I can open the passband to 3K.
BTN de NX6D
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K7KEY Keith… Sorry to take so long to get back with you. It’s been a strange net tonight. Sorry too to mess up your callsign My typing is getting hasty over to K7KEV
K7KY k
K7KY de K7KEV Thank you for your warm welcome.
I’m not new to digital, but I AM new to Flmsg and Flamp etc.
I’d like to practice more. I didn’t have Flmsg open up for me, probably something in a configuration somewhere. I did get file names with data in my Flwrap Receive folder. Don’t know what to do with them, but they’re there.
Potential suggestion: If only NCS had their TxID on, and others had their RxID on, the net would stay on frequency a bit better, wouldn’t it?
73, Keith, Forest Grove, OR
btu Doug K7KY de K7KEV k
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K7KEV de K7KY FB Keith… And thanks for these ideas and suggestions. I’m really frazzled tonight and I’ll review the log after closing the net and review what you’ve said… please send me an email if you would like to be included
in net reports. And, I’ll send a link to the new ORCA website. Thanks for coming and i hope you’ll be back 73
OVER to Ken K7IFG… Thanks for your patience too Ken K7KY k
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ALL ORCA Well, Ken K7IFG may have gone QRT. I don’t fault him or anyone for dropping tonight. Probably the most confused net we’ve ever run… Thanks to everyone who came and hung out until we got NCS sorted out
(somewhat). I hope you will all be back next week and I pledge to do more testing before net and eliminate flrig from my system… 73 Doug NCS K7KY k
NX6D
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NX6D Go ahead David.. K7KY k
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I like the suggestion that NCS uses TXiD, only and the rest of us do not. We all use RXid only and slave our Tx freq to our RX freq.
We need to deal with the fact that some transceivers do not get the 3595 exactly right and that causes the centerline to drift. Not sure if it matters all that much as I was able to copy all transmissions tonight, including some that
were 50Hz off.
BTN de NX6D
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NX6D It sounds like a good idea to me. I need to think it through before implementing it. I’ve been so slammed tonight, I don’t want to change anything quickly. But, I’ll kick it around and give it a try. I always use AFC to keep my
curser following the signal. it works well for our net as we seldom have close by neighbors. Usually, the frequency is pretty clear, unless there’s a RTTY contest. Then, there’s no space anywhere… Thanks for your thoughts and
patience tonight…
Are there any more comments… K7KY k
73 for now de JB.kr5rr
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KR5RR de K7KY Oh JB.. I’m glad your still here too… Thanks for coming and learning digital with us. your off to a flying start. No wonder, I suppose, you’ve been doing the most basic digital mode for quite some time… cu next
time i hope… 73 K7KY k
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NX6D
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NX6D Stand by a moment David.
Keith K7KEV if you’re still here, my email address is: k7ky@orcadigitalnet.com
Over to NX6D. K7KY k
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NX6D OK David… sorry for the interruption… K7KY k
You’re a brave man to send your email address on the radio.
Dont apologize, you are Net Control.
OK, that’s all for tonight. Big improvement for me. Hoping for more refinements next time.
73,
NX6D Clear.
K7KY or whomever, de K7KEV If anyone is still game, I wonder if someone can tell me what to do with the messages in the Flwrap receive folder.
Keith, K7KEV
btu Doug K7KY de K7KEV k
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K7KEV de K7KY Keith… I don’t use that module and can’t say how to use it right now. We create messages in flmsg and it will open received messages automatically. Stand by a moment..
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K7KEV de K7KY Do you mean flmsg? I don’t know flwrap btu K7KY k
K7KY de K7KEV I have several messages from tonight in the folder: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\NBEMS.files\WRAP\recv
Thanks. BTW, I already sent you a short email from the QRZ.COM email address you have…. fortunately, it was the same one….
Keith btu Doug K7KY de K7KEV k
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K7KEV de K7KY Mindy has some info for you… Thanks for being patient.. K7KY k
K7KEV de W7ZAP
Keith if you click on the configure at the top of FLDIGI and scroll down to Misc, then open the NBEMS tab… you can tell fldigi to open flmsg when it gets a msg. Select the enable box and the open w/flmsg. I’m not so up to speed on
flwrap… I think it works in the background. Hope this helps. And if you’d like me to send you a quick mesg to test and see if it works… I will.
BTU
< W7ZAP K
— W7ZAP de K7KEV Thanks, Mindi. I’m looking at the Config screen for NBEMS. I have checked Enable, Open message folder, Open with flmsg and Open in browser. Am I checking too many things, do you think?? BK
I don’t care for the open in browser because it is distracting (and others have complained about it). So that one I would suggest to uncheck. Want to do a
quick test?
BK
But first, do I have Flmsg already launched — any other programs already launched other than Fldigi?? BK
fortunately I didnt copy the first part of yourTX. Do you have flmsg installed yet??
BK
— W7ZAP de K7KEV Yes, installed. Would appreciate it. But first, do I have Flmsg already launched — any other programs already launched other than Fl
Copy that… FLDIGI will launch FLMSG.
Does that answer ur ?
BK
— W7ZAP de K7KEV Yep. Blast away!!
… start
[WRAP:beg][WRAP:lf][WRAP:fn W7ZAP-20150304-052457Z-3.213]:hdr_fm:21
W7ZAP 20150403052502
:hdr_ed:21
W7ZAP 20150403052459
:to:5 K7KEV
:fm:5 W7ZAP
:sb:8 Test MSG
:mg:21 Test hope you copy…
[WRAP:chksum 602C][WRAP:end]… end
K7KEV de < W7ZAP How Copy?
--- W7ZAP de K7KEV Hmmmmmmmmmm. If something is supposed to happen, it didn't. btu Mindy W7ZAP de K7KEV k
Stand by a momment…
— W7ZAP de K7KEV The message cam through loud and clear on the print screen, but Flmsg doesn’t appear to have been listening or at least it didn’t launch. btu Mindy W7ZAP
de K7KEV k
I see I left out an important item. Pls open the config screen>Misc>NBEMS
There at the bottom is where you tell fldigi where to find flmsg
C:\Program Files\flmsg-2.0.6\flmsg.exe or where ever flmsg lives…Do u see it??
BK
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— de K7KEV mindy, sorry, Fldigi locked up for about 20 seconds lost that xmsn. can you repeat? I have this in the NBEMS foldeer in the config screen:
:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documeents\HAM RADIO\NBEMS Files\WRAP\fname
Does that look right?
Keith btu de K7KEV k
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K7KEV de W7ZAP
No worries Keith. Yes, I see I left out an important item. Pls open the config screen>Misc>NBEMS
There at the bottom is where you tell fldigi where to find flmsg
C:\Program Files\flmsg-2.0.6\flmsg.exe or where ever flmsg lives…Do u see it??
BK
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btu de K7KEV
Did u get my last?
BK
— de K7KEV This is my folder: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documeents\HAM RADIO\NBEMS Files\WRAP\fname
Maybe it’s time to call it a night, Mindy. I’m losing it at this end. But I sure do appreciate your help with this. If you have any suggestions (other than “Read the darn instructions”) you can send it to my email address:
k7kev@arrl.net.
tnx fer QSO , 73.
de K7KEV sk
Sounds good Keith. Sorry if I confused you. I will send you an email and hope to see you again on the digital freqs…
GN and 73,
< W7ZAP K
you didn't do it. HI. GN and best wished to you and yours. btu Mindy W7ZAP de K7KEV k
Usually Doug (my husband) does the tech support. Kind of new to me. I know my way around better these days… OK Late night. Nice meeting you and
see u next week.
GN and &#
SK
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